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Re: Playstation 5.

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Post by KTiger_44 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:05 pm

I may well buy the PS5 when the 7 will be announced lol. I'm still debating buying a PS4 because on one hand, I really, REALLY want to play Valkyria Chronicles 4, Ace Combat 7, Metro Exodus and the Azur Lane and Girls und Panzer PS4 games, and I don't see myself buying a ridiculously expensive gaming laptop (I move a lot, don't live in a huge flat, and thus can't really have a static "tower" PC), but on the other hand, I don't really want to shell out $60-70 for every game I want. If I get the 5 aforementioned games and a non-Pro PS4, I'll pay something like $700 and that's BS.

I mean, for that price, I can go on a trip abroad, get a ridiculously expensive airsoft replica, or buy a second hand car. I'm not sinking so much money into 5 games; I'd do it for a new laptop if mine broke because I work and contact my family through it, and because I can get games for a fraction of what the PS4 ones cost, but not for "just" a console with 5 games.

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:53 pm

If you don't have PS4 you can just wait to see if PS5 has backward compatability. That should increase its value to you significantly if it is. Probably prudent to wait to see if a PS5 Pro emerges too.

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Post by Apiary Tazy » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:01 pm

Price is the rub. Still don't really have a PS4 technically as I'm just using a roommate's.

Not sure if I'd get a PS5 either. As usual, the game's are what matter most to me, and I'm not exactly sure what's going to go down if PS5 gets announced this year. That's probably all their in development titles moving to PS5, or at least they've got to push backwards compatibility for all that.

It's an awkward time but not unreasonable per se if they announce it in like March or something like that.

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Post by KTiger_44 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:02 pm

Eh, at this point I'd be satisfied with the baseline PS5, as the Pro thing doesn't add much to me; framerate might be nice on some games but that's not crucial as long as I get more than 24 fps (crap computer users, unite!) and 4K HD kinda loses its appeal when your eyesight is not ideal.
But yeah, it might be a good idea. I hope that the games I want to play on the PS4 won't tank, this way I'll be able to play the sequels on the 5.

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:40 am

Yeah, the PS4 Pro doesn't seem to add much but I think if you're going to invest in a system it might be good to look at the options. Maybe PS5 Pro will be a more significant difference (if it even comes), kinda like New 3DS was.

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Post by steeze » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:51 am

My PS4 has an HDMI port hanging by a thread. I've had it repaired once and it is sketchy moving that wire. The slightest tap can throw off the picture. I might just get the Pro so that I have a PS4 to play until the 5.

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Post by KTiger_44 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:04 pm

Ouch, what happened? Do you think you could have it repaired? I know that sometimes, in the USA or in Western Europe, you have to go through franchised shops, warranty or something like that, and it ends up costing an arm and a leg AND lasting for ages, while in Eastern Europe, you just go to the local electronics workshop, and your stuff is fixed within the day.
I was surprised thhe first time; I had broken the screen on my laptop and stressed like mad because I expected shelling out mad money and waiting 2 weeks if not more for the thing to come back, but my not-yet-wife just took me to a workshop down the street that installed a new screen for $50 in a couple hours, and that's because their laptop expert was already working on something else.
So, if you can, I think you can have the thing repaired within hours for dirt cheap, but that depends on where you live.

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Post by I am nobody » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:54 pm

First details: https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/04/16 ... on-console

The 8K bit makes me think this is still a ways off, or that we're looking at another five hundred ninety nine US dollars. 8K TVs still start at several thousand dollars, and running anything resembling a modern game at that resolution is pretty hopeless. Consoles obviously get more performance per dollar because of standardization and scale, but right now even the $1200 Titan XP can't get very close to 8K/30. The only way that feature makes sense to me for a near-future release is if they're banking on cloud processing like Stadia or if they're just hinting at the PS5 Pro very early.

Still, it's cool to see it'll support ray tracing. It's been kind of underwhelming in games so far, but wider adoption might help with that.

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Post by Calamity Panfan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:45 pm

yeah from what i'm gathering it sounds like the specs on this thing are gonna be crazy but i can't imagine it being very cheap considering the current availability of some of the tech being flaunted

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Post by Deepfake » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:26 pm

I am nobody wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:54 pm
First details: https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/04/16 ... on-console

The 8K bit makes me think this is still a ways off, or that we're looking at another five hundred ninety nine US dollars. 8K TVs still start at several thousand dollars, and running anything resembling a modern game at that resolution is pretty hopeless. Consoles obviously get more performance per dollar because of standardization and scale, but right now even the $1200 Titan XP can't get very close to 8K/30. The only way that feature makes sense to me for a near-future release is if they're banking on cloud processing like Stadia or if they're just hinting at the PS5 Pro very early.

Still, it's cool to see it'll support ray tracing. It's been kind of underwhelming in games so far, but wider adoption might help with that.
I've heard that they're only meaning it can upscale to 8K, not that it would run 8K natively.
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Post by steeze » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:09 am

Calamity Panfan wrote:
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yeah from what i'm gathering it sounds like the specs on this thing are gonna be crazy but i can't imagine it being very cheap considering the current availability of some of the tech being flaunted
That's exactly what I was thinking when I was reading some of the specs. You could easily spend over a thousand dollars on some of that today. They're saying it's gonna cost like 400 dollars? How?

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Post by I am nobody » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:45 pm

Confirmed at least 12 months out. Which doesn't necessarily rule out an announcement sometime this year, obviously.

They also said that PS Now has 700k users. It sounds like that's a good thing, but who knows what's necessary to support a system like that.

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Post by steeze » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:56 am

They give away those PS Now trials like candy at a barbershop.

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Post by I am nobody » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:04 pm

Confirmed for late next year: https://blog.us.playstation.com/2019/10 ... iday-2020/

Not many details beyond the controller.

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:00 pm

That's kinda neat. Honestly though, I wasn't too excited about PS4 and even less about this. I think the novelty of new consoles has worn off for me. Graphics haven't had a big enough jump for me to care, and consoles are feeling samey. Something interesting should happen, like Sega getting back into consoles.
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Post by I am nobody » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:04 am

SSDs will be a fairly notable improvement over the PS4. Load times this generation were getting to be pretty awful, and that should cut them by 10-100x depending on if they go with SATA or M.2 SSDs.

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:20 am

Wow, if 10x is lowball then that's still amazing. 100x would mean practically no load times, right? I guess that's notable indeed, although a little bit boring. I kinda miss when consoles had their own "personality" and unique features. I guess we've just moved past that for the most part.

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Post by I am nobody » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:21 am

I don't know what the HDD in the PS4 gets for read speed, but a typical PC one is around 30-60 MB/s, while an average SATA SSD is something like 350-500 MB/s. The M.2 I have, which isn't even top of the line anymore, did 3600 MB/s last time I tested it. It isn't quite zero load in my experience, but it's pretty close, and I imagine you could get there with devs specifically optimizing for those speeds.

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Re: Playstation 5.

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Post by Calamity Panfan » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:14 pm

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:00 pm
That's kinda neat. Honestly though, I wasn't too excited about PS4 and even less about this. I think the novelty of new consoles has worn off for me. Graphics haven't had a big enough jump for me to care, and consoles are feeling samey. Something interesting should happen, like Sega getting back into consoles.
I definitely get what you mean about graphical jumps seeming less and less noticeable but it's becoming clear that those recent graphical improvements are still really outgrowing this generation's technology. Running a new AAA game on a base PS4 is a nightmare even for first party games at this point. Running Spider-Man or RDR2 makes my console sound like it's screaming trying to keep up. I've really wanted to play Control but I've heard it's REALLY rough if you don't have a Pro, or you just have to learn to play with input delay/lag in enemy-intensive portions.

I'm probably not gonna be in the market for a PS5 for a while. I haven't gotten nearly the same use out of my PS4 as I did any previous PlayStations, and now that PS Now is cheaper I've got a ton of stuff there that I'll finally be able to play. Plus my Switch really satisfies my gaming needs in a way that most other consoles in the last 15 years hasn't.

Super interested in seeing the technical side of things pan out. Minimized load times, stuff like raytracing graphically, etc.

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Re: Playstation 5.

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Post by steeze » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:12 am

Calamity Panfan wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:14 pm
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:00 pm
That's kinda neat. Honestly though, I wasn't too excited about PS4 and even less about this. I think the novelty of new consoles has worn off for me. Graphics haven't had a big enough jump for me to care, and consoles are feeling samey. Something interesting should happen, like Sega getting back into consoles.
I definitely get what you mean about graphical jumps seeming less and less noticeable but it's becoming clear that those recent graphical improvements are still really outgrowing this generation's technology. Running a new AAA game on a base PS4 is a nightmare even for first party games at this point. Running Spider-Man or RDR2 makes my console sound like it's screaming trying to keep up. I've really wanted to play Control but I've heard it's REALLY rough if you don't have a Pro, or you just have to learn to play with input delay/lag in enemy-intensive portions.
When I am playing Apex Legends on my PS4 it sounds like there is a jet engine in my room ready to launch off an aircraft carrier. I fully expect that one day it will just shoot through my window up into the sky to intercept a MiG-35 over the Atlantic.

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